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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1941
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Posted - 2016.06.28 17:44:48 -
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While the new camera is probably ok for the bulk of players, those that put high demands on the old camera are still left out in the cold with the new one being far less fit for the purpose of fast manoeuvring around hostile gangs and fleets.
Its worrying that CCP thinking is that if only a small percentage of players are effected then why not make a change for the worst if it will only be a small fraction that will stop playing?
Id rather CCP make changes that use the current performance as a baseline and build from there, but then what do i know? Perhaps theres a benefit from alienating one group of people after another? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1941
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Posted - 2016.06.28 17:51:45 -
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Alyssia Benar wrote:.. and while we're on it: please never ever remove the old map. I just can't stand this new "funky" crap. Scanning takes me atleast three times longer. Why is it necessary to change working features and break them.
Old code has to be replaced with bad features.
It used to be that people who made the game played the game. Its hard to tell if the people who make the game now even enjoy working for the company, let alone the game. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1944
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Posted - 2016.06.28 19:56:03 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote: I'm not white knighting. I'm just sick of whiners. If you have a complaint, fine. But it seems to me like every single feedback thread consists of a gathering of whine connoisseurs opening their best bottles of "WAAAH CCP YOU SUCK". Did you bring the cheese?
Dont come to a feedback thread to tell people to not give their honest feedback.
If you are happy, say so. Let others have their say. Lets hope those others can say enough to help CCP make better choices so you have other people to play with in EVE in the future. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1944
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Posted - 2016.06.28 20:12:37 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote: I'm not white knighting. I'm just sick of whiners. If you have a complaint, fine. But it seems to me like every single feedback thread consists of a gathering of whine connoisseurs opening their best bottles of "WAAAH CCP YOU SUCK". Did you bring the cheese?
Dont come to a feedback thread to tell people to not give their honest feedback. If you are happy, say so. Let others have their say. Lets hope those others can say enough to help CCP make better choices so you have other people to play with in EVE in the future. I think you might want to edit your quote mate. You have quoted me with saying something someone else said. (I told him much the same as you, please fix it) Here is the original post
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1947
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Posted - 2016.06.28 20:55:10 -
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Next patch, player doesnt control the camera. The camera is positioned by a smart algorithm which makes everything look good on twitch and youtube. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1975
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Posted - 2016.07.02 18:04:06 -
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CCP Mimic wrote:Hi again everyone, Just a quick update on what we are currently working on in regards to the feedback you have given us so far: We are looking at combining several dynamic camera actions into a single toggle-able option, that will include the docking/undocking camera as well as some existing toggle-able camera options. Details about what will be included will be made available closer to release, which we hope to have with you soon.
Have a great weekend, and fly safe o7
Sorry mate, but the way the undocking camera snatches control of your game for a moment to do a jarring zoom / pan / fov is ridiculous. It needs to be nuked. The person who submitted it for release on TQ needs to be put on a reprimand and the person who approved it was negligent in their job and needs to be treated as such.
There is no way this should have got to TQ. This option does not need to be bundled in with the other pathetic camera features since there are 2 categores of things that need to be disabled. First is 'Fancy fov and motion effects that no one in their right mind could play eve to any standard with them enabled', and 'utterly ridiculous camera features that should never have been on SISI let alone TQ'.
TBH, there is a third category. This just applies to the docking camera panning, it should be 'disable cheesy and tacky camera panning when docking'. This has its own category since it doesnt really effect gameplay and i would guess its an artefact of developing and idea that sounds good in a drunken meeting, then no one having the balls to say "hey guys, the way this works in the game is ****, we should just scratch this".
If you want eve to be cinematic, go make a TV series. I think you should concentrate on making your game playable instead. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1984
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:03:02 -
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After todays patch the annoying tacky animations can be disabled. Im not going to thank CCP for allowing us to disable something that should not exist in game in its current form.
The new camera is still in many ways worse than the original camera;
- 2x input to look up and down compared to left and right. CCP has never offered a justification to this or even addressed it.
- Too many zoom increments close up to ship and too few increments when zoomed far out which results in sluggish zoom when up close and massive increments in zoom distance when zoomed out far. This can make it hard to put the camera at a distance that is comfortable for kiting. Also, with a ratchet-less scroll wheel mouse this has the added problem of there being far too few increments when looking further out making it far too fast to control with scroll wheel.
- Max zoom out is around the 500km mark compared to the orignal cameras 1000km, which makes no sense since you have increased the size of the grid.
Why stop so close to having the new camera work as well as the old one?
Why are you satisfied that the inferiorities listed above are satisfactory?
It would be nice if CCP finally addressed these points. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1988
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:16:37 -
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They want to make the game simple for new players.
They dont care that the compromises they are making to achieve this simplicity are making the game even less attractive to new and old players alike.
Its like ccp have fired everyone who isnt a yes man. There seems to be a complete vacuum of common sense on even the most mundane issues. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1988
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Posted - 2016.07.05 23:29:22 -
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"lets redesign the new camera with 6-7 new features. Lets make its base performance significantly worse than the original camera. With all the new features enabled EVE practically unplayable. Lets tell people to disable all these new features to make the new camera perform like the old one even though that is a complete lie. Lets say our objective is simplicity while we make all these new features toggle-able because eve is unplayable with them enabled. Most of features are useless and turned off by the vast majority of active players. Then for even more simplicity lets add a new wave of unwanted features that are rejected by the players. Instead of removing these bad features lets group them into toggles with other features that were originally independently toggl-able. One of these features, some players inexplicably wanted to use but the new features makes their stomachs queezy. Simple, right?" - CCP 2016. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1997
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Posted - 2016.07.08 19:50:02 -
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Ageanal Olerie wrote: By-the-way, do feel free to add more epic camera awesomeness.
I like most of them.
Just give us individual toggles for different aspects of it.
Thanks!
After you have made the base camera as good as the original camera obviously. In fact, please wait until the base performance of the new camera is as good as the original before you release it to TQ.... oh wait. |
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